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Subject: Re: shareware software

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adam Chamberlain) says:
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>Could any one suggest a good public domain/shareware program for use with
>Windows 3.1 that works with ppp and/or slip protocols. Also could any one
>inform me of an ftp site that might have this file.
>
>Thanks
>
>--
>Adam Chamberlain

I really like the winsock program that comes with chameleon sampler
disk.  It is attached to several books (ie Windows Internet Tour Guide).
You'll probably want to replace the client programs.  But the winsock
program is really good.  I am able to make a wide variety of freeware
clients (mosaic, cello, Hgopher, pceudora, etc... work fine with it).

Sholom Gliksman       [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Offline news reader.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Albert Meaney McClure) says:
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>Is there a news reading program that operates with Winsock that allows offline
>mail reading and composing of posts?

I heard that it is on the agenda for the next change in WinVN.

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Subject: Re: Finding IP Addresses...

In article <2r33ln$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
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>In article <2r30v9$[e-mail]>, <ryker@saturn> writes:
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>> Does anyone know how I can determine the IP address from
>> a "wordy" address. Example: how can I find the numerical
>> address of  some.site.ijust.thought.of
>

I have the same problem that my name server won't resolve address into IP numbers.

If you telnet to 130.59.1.40 and login as "lookup" it will give IP numbers for Domain Names.

You can then add these to your host file.  Then it is just a click with your mouse.

MJ
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Subject: Re: [win] a better mousetrap...er...newsreader


>In article <2r1s33$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tony) writes:
>>So is there anywhere where I can get a threaded newsreader
>>a la trn for Windows 3.1 running Trumpet Winsock?  Or at least a better
>>newsreader?
>

Winvn and Trumpet Newsreader are two options superior to Winqvt for news.
You should follow the alt.winsock newsgroup for information about
winsock-compliant applications.  There you will find a FAQ for winsock
applications which will tell you where to find these two programs.
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Subject: Re: WinMosaic

In article <2quf1n$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Yeh) says:
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>I was wondering if there was an earlier version of WinMosaic I missed
>that did not require 32s but did allow you to Print and View Document Source.

Sorry, there wasn't one.  I'm not sure about the "print" print part though.

Doc

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Subject: Re: unix gzip and windows

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rob Madsen) says:
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>Ok, now that we all can connect our windows pc to unix ftp sites,
>does anyone know of a unix-type gzip compression utility for
>windows.  Or is there a way my Winzip can decompress the
>.gz extension files I have downloaded?

Sorry, I've only heard of DOS versions (have one; works with .gz and .z), but
no Windows.
If you want more info e-mail me.

Doc

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Subject: Stabilizing Win Mosaic 2b4

Is anyone running Mosaic 2 beta 4 in Win 3.1 without frequent and spontaneous
Internal Application Errors?  I grew so frustrated with the constant crashes
that I went back to the 16 bit version, but I really really miss the ability
to print, and the document cacheing seems less intelligent.  Anyone have hints
for stabilizing 32 bit Mosaic?

Bob Z
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Subject: I Need a good newsreader

Can someone recommend a good winsock compliant newsreader. I'm using Trumpet
right now and find it ok but wonder if there might be something better out
there. Please e mail response.
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Subject: Without Local NNTP, What do I do?


I use SL/IP to connect my PC to Internet, but our school's news server
doesn't support NNTP, so I wonder if I can use other school's news
servers.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

--Lieting
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Subject: Re: I Need a good newsreader

You are probably using the best Winsock NNTP news reader out there right now.
Trumpet beats all of the commercial newsreaders, according to PC Week (Network
edition) a few weeks ago when they looked at Windows TCP/IP programs.

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul Levine)
writes:

>Can someone recommend a good winsock compliant newsreader. I'm using Trumpet
>right now and find it ok but wonder if there might be something better out
>there. Please e mail response.

--
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Subject: Re: Stabilizing Win Mosaic 2b4

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bob Zimbinski) writes:

>Is anyone running Mosaic 2 beta 4 in Win 3.1 without frequent and spontaneous
>Internal Application Errors?  I grew so frustrated with the constant crashes

Yep, runs fine without any lockups.

>that I went back to the 16 bit version, but I really really miss the ability
>to print, and the document cacheing seems less intelligent.  Anyone have hints
>for stabilizing 32 bit Mosaic?

Make sure you are running it on a 486 with 8 MB of RAM and a good nice swap
file ... There's also seems to be problem with Mosaic not returning resources
back to Windows after it exits.

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Subject: Re: internet access / firewall

In article <[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>Hi --
>
>I'd like to be able to use cool apps like mosaic (like from: ncsa.uiuc.ecu),
>but, we have a firewall at our site..
>
>now I have access to the internet via Iftp (and Itelnet) using my unix login,
>but, I can't seem to access the internet (past the wall) using my pc..

The problem is actually quite easily solved for WinMosaic. You need to
run a 'proxy' server on the firewall. you can have your unix
administrator do this for you. (Easy for me to say - I'm a unix
administrator myself.  :-)  You then tell mosaic where the proxy
server is by adding the lines:

[proxy information]
ftp_proxy=http://proxy.host.domain:80/
http_proxy=http://proxy.host.domain:80/
wais_proxy=http://proxy.host.domain:80/
gopher_proxy=http://proxy.host.domain:80/

to mosaic.ini. 80 is the default port number for http. I do this
myself, and it generally works quite well.

You will find that using lynx to check out the various pages that
describe this info very useful while doing the configuration. lynx is
a text-only WWW browser that you can run from a unix terminal window.

I also recommend that you aim your slip/IP/mosaic related questions to
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Subject: Re: WSHOST (was NSLOOKUP for Winsock)


In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:

> The other day someone posted a message indicating that an NSLOOKUP-type
> application called WSHOST was available from the CICA Windows archive.
> I have not been able to connect to CICA because of heavy traffic, and
> have been unable to find this file in the CICA mirror sites.  Can
> anyone confirm that this file really exists?

ftp.halcyon.com:/pub/tiskwin/wshost.zip

Not a bad piece of work.
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Subject: Trumpet Winsock Window Size/Placement

Is there a way to control the size and placement of the Trumpet
Winsock window when the program is started?  It seems like it opens
to a different size (and location) every time I use it, and I have
to resize/reposition it to keep it from obscuring other windows.

I didn't see anything in the .ini file that affects this.  Suggestions?

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Subject: Mosaic question


I have a question about mosaic.  I am not sure how to connect to
random ftp sites.  Let's say I do an archie seach for ftp sites that have
a given file, then I want to access these sites.  Mosaic allows a
great interface for accessing ftp sites, but from what I have seen it
only applies to sites that are within an HTML interface file.  Is
there a way
that I can connect to a particular ftp site at will, ie., I have the address
and want to use the mosaic interface to view and download files.

Hope someone has an idea, Thanks, Mike
(HATZAKIS @ CAMIS.STANFORD.EDU)
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Subject: Re: Stabilizing Win Mosaic 2b4

Excerpts from netnews.alt.winsock: 15-May-94 Stabilizing Win Mosaic 2b4
by Bob [e-mail]
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>Is anyone running Mosaic 2 beta 4 in Win 3.1 without frequent and
>spontaneous Internal Application Errors?  I grew so frustrated with the
>constant crashes that I went back to the 16 bit version, but I really really
>miss the ability to print, and the document cacheing seems less intelligent.
>Anyone have hints for stabilizing 32 bit Mosaic?

It runs just fine on my machine.  Of course I have 16 Megs of RAM and a
40 Meg permanent swap file.  I would suggest using a large permanent
swap file.
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Subject: Re: Without Local NNTP, What do I do?


In article <[e-mail]>,

> I use SL/IP to connect my PC to Internet, but our school's news server
> doesn't support NNTP, so I wonder if I can use other school's news
> servers.

You can use any news server that allows public NNTP access.  There aren't
that many left in the world, and those that do exist often heavily limit
the number of folks using it.  But they are out there.

Hint: if you find a good site, don't tell anyone. :)